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Theatrefanboy1
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/2/15
#1Next ALW show on Broadway
Posted: 5/22/23 at 11:25pm
I’m really hoping that we may see a Joseph revival.
But I would love as well a revival of Song and Dance or Woman in White. Or Love Never Dies as a limited engagement
I think that rumoured revival of Evita with Lady Gaga and Enrique Iglesias would have been phenomenal with the right director
As with Phantom being my favourite musical. I have no interest in any cheap revivals. I want a full return of the classic if we get anything.
I am also curious if ALW has a musical or two left in him.
sparklingtonic2
Swing Joined: 10/2/22
#2Next ALW show on Broadway
Posted: 5/22/23 at 11:43pm
Theatrefanboy1 said: "I’m really hoping that we may see a Joseph revival.
But I would love as well a revival of Song and Dance or Woman in White. Or Love Never Dies as a limited engagement
My choices:
1. Love Never Dies
2. Song and Dance
3. JCS
4. Joseph
If Aspects of Love weren't playing in London, that would top my list (very excited for that revival...). I don't know anything about Woman in White -- will have to check it out!
As with Phantom being my favourite musical. I have no interest in any cheap revivals. I want a full return of the classic if we get anything.
+10000. It's my favorite also, and I'd be sad to see it scaled down. I want to see it again in its full glory with an amazing cast.
Lady Gaga in Evita also sounds incredible, though Evita is not high on my list of ALW works (though maybe I just need to see it with a great cast.. Hmm...).
I am also curious if ALW has a musical or two left in him."
Me too!
ErmengardeStopSniveling
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/20/18
#3Next ALW show on Broadway
Posted: 5/23/23 at 12:12am
I'd welcome a new ALW show because he still has good melodies in him, but I think he has lost the ability to collaborate. He sucks the air out of a room. He needs to work with coauthors who challenge him, and he needs to work with strong directors. But I don't think he's willing to do that. Don't be composer + producer + arranger + orchestrator + don't put your name above the title.
As I've said before, it's almost identical to the problems that Richard Rodgers faced in his later career.
raddersons
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/14/13
#4Next ALW show on Broadway
Posted: 5/23/23 at 12:21am
Evita at ART is surely looking to transfer in, yeah?
#5Next ALW show on Broadway
Posted: 5/23/23 at 3:05am
ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "I'd welcome a new ALW show because he still has good melodies in him, but I think he has lost the ability to collaborate. He sucks the air out of a room. He needs to work with coauthors who challenge him, and he needs to work with strong directors. But I don't think he's willing to do that. Don't be composer + producer + arranger + orchestrator + don't put your name above the title.
As I've said before, it's almost identical to the problems that Richard Rodgers faced in his later career."
I totally agree but I wonder if this has been happening for decades. If Hal Prince had directed Sunset I wonder if it would be ALW's best show...it has such good material but so much crap I just don't believe a very strong director would have let it go to rehearsal in that form. The whole marketing around "ALW's Cinderella" is super cringe. Ultimately this man doesn't even write words, just music - and I always feel he is so inconsistent in this. Can someone please whip ALW into shape because I genuinely believe he still has it in him. "Only You, Lonely You" is as great as anything in Phantom, Evita or Sunset.
One problem I see is I just don't know if there is a Director alive today that has enough stature for ALW to consider himself below the hierarchy of that person. I can't think of anyone he'd listen to.
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
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dramamama611
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/4/07
#6Next ALW show on Broadway
Posted: 5/23/23 at 5:51am
raddersons said: "Evita at ART is surely looking to transfer in, yeah?"
That seems to be popular opinion .
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
#7Next ALW show on Broadway
Posted: 5/23/23 at 7:53am
He doesn’t seem to be showing any signs of slowing down or stopping, so I have to imagine we’ll get another new musical at some point. The problem, as stated above, Is he needs someone (or multiple people) to be honest with him about his shows.
And maybe after Bad Cinderella, he’ll want to write a new musical to “show everyone he still has it”.
#8Next ALW show on Broadway
Posted: 5/23/23 at 8:44am
I'm certainly hoping to get another new show from ALW at some point, although he is getting pretty far up in age and hasn't always enjoyed great health. It's such a shame - for multiple reasons - that Hal Prince has left us.
As for his existing catalog, I'd pay big bucks to see The Woman in White, Love Never Dies, and a fully-staged production of Sunset Boulevard come to Broadway, but I don't think any of those are likely.
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inception
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/2/13
#9Next ALW show on Broadway
Posted: 5/23/23 at 9:44am
binau said: "
One problem I see is I just don't know if there is a Director alive today that has enough stature for ALW to consider himself below the hierarchy of that person. I can't think of anyone he'd listen to.
Julie Taymor
Baz Luhrmann
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ErmengardeStopSniveling
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/20/18
#10Next ALW show on Broadway
Posted: 5/23/23 at 9:50am
Looking back: Richard Eyre directed STEPHEN WARD, which was not advertised as heavily as an ALW show. But that was almost a decade ago — and an odd choice for ALW. His wordsmiths were the SUNSET BLVD gents, Christopher Hampton and Don Black.
#11Next ALW show on Broadway
Posted: 5/23/23 at 11:23am
It's Aspects of Love all the way for me. However, a well-cast Encores production with a full orchestra (not huge for this show anyhow) might be preferable to a budget Broadway revival.
Ke3
Broadway Star Joined: 6/25/20
#12Next ALW show on Broadway
Posted: 5/23/23 at 11:30am
Collaboration has always been a struggle for Andrew. He's said himself the reason he prefers song through works is they give the composer a level of control otherwise unheard of. He rarely works with a lyricist who has the same level of power as him. The only strong voices he worked with after Tim were directors and once the 80s were over, so were his days of listening to directors he couldn't overrule.
RippedMan
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/14/05
#13Next ALW show on Broadway
Posted: 5/23/23 at 11:49am
I love Woman in White and I think a smaller scale version done at Circle could be quit haunting.
Tenor8674
Swing Joined: 12/13/22
#14Next ALW show on Broadway
Posted: 5/23/23 at 11:50am
Always thought ASPECTS OF LOVE would make a great Encores! choice. Focus on that gorgeous score and less on the book. It will never be a commercial hit on Broadway. Limited run, maybe.
ErmengardeStopSniveling
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/20/18
#15Next ALW show on Broadway
Posted: 5/23/23 at 11:54am
I'd love to see SONG AND DANCE at Encores, too. There are a number of titles that would be great for Encores, but I suppose he is holding on to them in the hopes that they could become something more.
#16Next ALW show on Broadway
Posted: 5/23/23 at 12:44pm
We've got an Aspects of Love revival looking to cross the Atlantic depending on how it does in London, Evita coming in from the ART, there's word on the street that ALW is shopping for a Broadway house for an Equity run of the current 50th-anniversary JCS tour, Phantom poised to move after the TV series has run in the intervening time to prime the pump for its downsized return, and rumors about trying to shift a Joseph production as well. I think he'll be back to four shows on Broadway -- or whatever his last crowning achievement was -- before very long.
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Sutton Ross
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/20/13
#17Next ALW show on Broadway
Posted: 5/23/23 at 12:58pm
It's wild he decided to bring the terrible Bad Cinderella here but won't bring Love Never Dies to New York. I guess the tour, in which tickets were just being given away, was too much of an indication that nobody cared. Odd he didn't listen to anybody about BC, though.
I think Evita will be back shortly.
JSquared2
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/23/17
#18Next ALW show on Broadway
Posted: 5/23/23 at 1:14pm
ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "I'd love to see SONG AND DANCE at Encores, too. There are a number of titles that would be great for Encores, but I suppose he is holding on to them in the hopes that they could become something more."
It seems unlikely that they would be able to stage the "Dance" portion of the show in just 2 weeks. Tell Me A Sunday is far more likely to be done as a Special Event somewhere. Years ago, there were plans to bring it to Broadway with Alice Ripley (who had just done it at the Kennedy Center), but it didn't pan out There are any number of actors who would be great in the role now -- Sutton Foster is the obvious choice but she is getting close to aging out of the role. Lea Michele, Lili Cooper, Katrina Lenk and Renee Elise Goldsberry all come to mind.
RumTumJM
Understudy Joined: 9/16/13
#19Next ALW show on Broadway
Posted: 5/23/23 at 4:55pm
g.d.e.l.g.i. said: "We've got anAspects of Loverevival looking to cross the Atlantic depending on how it does in London,Evitacoming in from the ART, there's word on the street that ALW is shopping for a Broadway house for an Equity run of the current 50th-anniversaryJCStour, Phantompoised to move after the TV series has run in the intervening time to prime the pump for its downsized return, and rumors about trying to shift a Joseph production as well. I think he'll be back to four shows on Broadway -- or whatever his last crowning achievement was -- before very long."
Superstar back on Broadway?!?!?!
While I LOVE the idea (and would no doubt go to a show), would that really work? Hasn't the current tour hit most of the major markets in America already? (Safe to say it would be a very limited run?)
#20Next ALW show on Broadway
Posted: 5/23/23 at 5:12pm
Interesting reading all of the thought and comments above -
As much as Aspect of Love is still one of my all time favorites, even with the good reports about the revival which opens this week, and even if that's a success, I'd be shocked to see that in NY again. In one of the announcements about the Sunset Revival, there was speculation that the hope is for that to come to NY. I'm curious about how much "reimagination" they are thinking for that and is this to jump start the talk about the film again which pre-pandemic had a director attached and seemed slowly to be moving forward.
Love Never Dies - from what I remember, on the tour it had a very successful run (and most definitely better than Bad Cinderella). I'd have to go searching for the articles, but it was a better sell on the road as the sequel to Phantom then it would've been in NY. ALW doesn't ever seem to reference it anymore though. And now in the UK they've released it for regional/amateur productions.
I'm sure a Joseph revival is inevitable. JCS, that would be interesting. It's been to NY what three times and lost money every time?
The Woman in White - was enjoyable the two times I saw it, but its not one that really caught on in London or NY. Considering the source material was a "popular" British novel, that it didn't really go anywhere makes it forgettable in a lot of ways. The story really wasn't so shocking. The whole first Act is building around this "Secret" that mostly was ho hum when it was revealed. (at least to me)
#21Next ALW show on Broadway
Posted: 5/23/23 at 8:09pm
binau said: "ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "He needs to work with coauthors who challenge him, and he needs to work with strong directors. But I don't think he's willing to do that."
Can someone please whip ALW into shape because I genuinely believe he still has it in him. "Only You, Lonely You" is as great as anything in Phantom, Evita or Sunset."
I totally agree with both of you here. It's part of what has me excited for the West End Sunset Boulevard. I will take Jaime Lloyd's minimalism with a vision over Laurence Connor's cheap and boring with no vision ANY day.
I finally saw Bad Cindy this past weekend and the thing that pissed me off was that I kept feeling like there was a good show in there. As you mentioned Binau, there are some really solid tunes in there and so much fun stuff too. I loved all the stuff with the queen, stepmother, and hunks! But it was so bogged down by boring direction, boring content, and a fundamental misunderstanding of the voice of the main character. I was reminded of Sondheim's frustrations with songs like "I Feel Pretty" in West Side Story. WHY WHY WHY does Cinderella sing 5 ballads?!?!?! She's not Bad Cinderella, she's Sad Cinderella. Bad Cinderella should be singing upbeat angry punk rock songs. Then she can finally open up at the end with "I Know I Have a Heart." I think ALW would be fully capable of writing those songs, but he needed people to tell him that's how the character needed to sing.
#22Next ALW show on Broadway
Posted: 5/23/23 at 8:49pm
In the next 1-3 years feel we'll see Evita, Aspects of Love and Joseph as the next three ALW shows on Broadway.
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#23Next ALW show on Broadway
Posted: 5/24/23 at 5:13am
That new production of Joseph is a joyless slog.
Well I didn't want to get into it, but he's a Satanist.
Every full moon he sacrifices 4 puppies to the Dark Lord and smears their blood on his paino.
This should help you understand the score for Wicked a little bit more.
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Is Stephen Schwartz a Practicing Christian
#24Next ALW show on Broadway
Posted: 5/24/23 at 7:18am
chernjam said: "Love Never Dies - from what I remember, on the tour it had a very successful run (and most definitely better than Bad Cinderella). I'd have to go searching for the articles, but it was a better sell on the road as the sequel to Phantom then it would've been in NY. ALW doesn't ever seem to reference it anymore though. And now in the UK they've released it for regional/amateur productions."
Norm Lewis Will Lead LOVE NEVER DIES IN CONCERT at Theatre Royal Drury Lane This Summer
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#25Next ALW show on Broadway
Posted: 5/24/23 at 8:09am
That’s exciting! Signed up for pre-sale for that concert. While the show itself isn’t perfect, I still think “Beneath a Moonless Sky” is one of the most gorgeous songs in any ALW show
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